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I know now who is the hipster patron saint! It's Oscar Wilde.

The Soul of Man Under Socialism

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In "The Soul of Man", Wilde argues that, under capitalism, "the majority of people spoil their lives by an unhealthy and exaggerated altruism—are forced, indeed, so to spoil them": instead of realising their true talents, they waste their time solving the social problems caused by capitalism, without taking their common cause away. Thus, caring people "seriously and very sentimentally set themselves to the task of remedying the evils that they see" in poverty, "but their remedies do not cure the disease: they merely prolong it" because, "the proper aim is to try and reconstruct society on such a basis that poverty will be impossible."

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Bush's twin daughters come out in support of gay marriage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...uality_n_816696.html

Dick Cheney, father of Mary Cheney, supports gay marriage.

First Lady Laura Bush said, "...I also know that when couples are committed to each other and love each other that they ought to have the same sort of rights that everyone has."

However, "During his presidency, Bush pushed a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage and has repeatedly stated his belief that marriage should be defined as between a man and a woman."

Cindy McCain and Meghan McCain also appeared in a pro-gay marriage ad, while John McCain stubbornly opposed repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, despite saying he'll support it if the military officials endorse it.

Patti Davis (born Patricia Ann Reagan), daughter of Ronald Reagan, was known for being pro-choice, supporting gay rights, opposing nuclear weapons, railing against the Vietnam War, and she posed nude for Playboy with a black man. How much more anti-establishment and defiant of conventions can you get.

This shows a generational trend among the children of conservatives who are more liberal and tolerant than their parents. Republicans should be scared for the long-run.

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Originally posted by lennonist:

Bush's twin daughters come out in support of gay marriage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...uality_n_816696.html

Dick Cheney, father of Mary Cheney, supports gay marriage.

First Lady Laura Bush said, "...I also know that when couples are committed to each other and love each other that they ought to have the same sort of rights that everyone has."

However, "During his presidency, Bush pushed a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage and has repeatedly stated his belief that marriage should be defined as between a man and a woman."

Cindy McCain and Meghan McCain also appeared in a pro-gay marriage ad, while John McCain stubbornly opposed repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, despite saying he'll support it if the military officials endorse it.

Patti Davis (born Patricia Ann Reagan), daughter of Ronald Reagan, was known for being pro-choice, supporting gay rights, opposing nuclear weapons, railing against the Vietnam War, and she posed nude for Playboy with a black man. How much more anti-establishment and defiant of conventions can you get.

This shows a generational trend among the children of conservatives who are more liberal and tolerant than their parents. Republicans should be scared for the long-run.

Gay gay gay gay gay gay gay. Seriously there is gonna be a backlash like you can't imagine.

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There were white people who marched with Dr. Martin Luther King. There were whites abolitionists who were appalled at the sight of slave ships. There were Germans, Albanian Muslims, Austrians, French citizens, Dutch citizens, and other central Europeans that gave Jews secret refuges. There were/are Jews like Albert Einstein, Martin Buber, Mattityahu Peled, Gerald Kaufman, Noam Chomsky, Anna Baltzer, Norman Finkelstein, and Jon Stewart, who have criticized the state of Israel for its treatment of the Palestinian people. There are people everywhere who intervene on the behalf of others. Because Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

Jesus Christ chose the poor and oppressed for his company. He loved sinners and called them to himself. He forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He tolerated and associated with drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the spirit of the law. He preached love, patience, charity, compassion, and forgiveness. We would be wise to follow his teachings, which were echoed by Socrates, Buddha, Muhammad, Immanuel Kant, Gandhi, MLK, and John Lennon.

I may not be gay/lesbian, bisexual/pansexual, intersexed, transsexual, asexual, queer/questioning, or undecided, but I can at least respect the goddamn rights of people to love and enter into marriage or civil unions as they please and enjoy the respective legal benefits and protection thereof, such as receiving tax benefits and raising children.

I don't know why you are so threatened by the potential for happiness of non-homosexuals and scared of the thought of same-sex couples entering into a social union and legal contract. It's not like they are going to steal your mom or your girlfriend, that is if some poor soul were to be desperate enough to be around with you. This would have no effect whatsoever on you in any way. It's just love.

Justice delayed and deferred is justice denied. Equality Now. Peace, Love, and Justice for all. QED.

BOOM! TOASTED. Suck on some salt and swallow it.

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Originally posted by MusicLover_2007:

Ah yes. Once again comparing the black struggle to the inability of gays to "marry".

That is a completely fair comparison. While they haven't gone through the same struggles, they sure as hell are still being discriminated against.

Please, explain exactly why it is you believe the way you believe, why you have such harsh feelings for people of the liberal nature. Oh wait, you won't, because you have no argument, and that's the whole point.

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I'm proud to report, as I live in the state of Massachusetts where gay marriage is legalized and BOTH (including our REPUBLICAN senator, Scott Brown, who has traditionally stood against this proposal)senators voted to end DADT, the sky hasn't fallen. The world hasn't ended. Homosexuals were wed, and nobody was injured. Kids aren't suddenly turning gay. Bullying and teasing has dropped tremendously against gay students in our state (which I even witnessed first-hand at a private CATHOLIC (!!!) middle/high-school for 7 years), and kids no longer feel afraid to live their lives and not worry about who's going to judge or condemn them for something that they have no power over. Gay couples that are in love have finally been granted the same rights (at least, at the state level) that their heterosexual counterparts were. And nothing bad has happened. It only boosted our economy, as gay couples across New England began having weddings in Massachusetts.

While yes, I would certainly not compare the homosexual struggle to the struggles of slavery and the Civil Rights Movement in terms of the sheer magnitude of effrontery to the civil rights of one's fellow man, I would still say that they have had their rights withheld from them. They have every right to marry, but this nation has every right to put this issue to vote, as it is a very controversial subject to many. And you know what? Not every state is gonna pass laws legalizing gay marriage. But some have, some will. And with time, I'm confident that others will follow suit. Each generation is growing more and more progressively liberal. And with time, all things will work out.

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